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dennis Bernstein on Greg Geiselman's quotes via scooter
* about 2 1/2 weeks ago, dennis bernstein + i spoke at some length. i had
called him to compliment him on his interview with michael moore. when we
were finished with that topic we went on to others. since so much of his air
ti=
me is devoted to the israeli-arab conflict--and he only covers one
side of the story, and that side heavily spun--i asked him if he weren't
concerned he had gotten a rep for not being interested in the truth, but me=
rely his opinion of it. below is his response [direct quote]:
d bernstein [7th march 2002]: <greg,
the truth is what i say it is.>
i asked him if he really meant that, and he said yes. we discussed
it, which led
to a question i had for him about his concern for balance in his programs--
or at the very least, acknowledging that there was another side to the story.
be=
low is a close paraphrase of his response:
d bernstein [7th march 02]: <if
you want balance, go watch cnn. or read the ny
times. everyone knows the newspapers + mainstream media are controlled
by the jews.>
i asked him if he realized how racist + self-loathing that sounded
+ he said it
wasn't either, but that i obviously didn't understand. he got that part riight.
we tried to discuss it further, but the conversation began to veer off into
worldwide-jewish-control-of-banks-and-the-media conspiracy theories.
going back to his favorite topic, i asked him if he were willing
to acknowledge
that innocent dead israeli children were just as dead as innocent palestinian
children--and if
he understood that on a human level, the parents + families of dead jews grieved
just as much for their losses as the parents + familes of dead arabs. below
is a
close paraphrase of his response:
d bernstein [7th march 2002]: <don't
talk to me about dead children...what
about the jewish settlements [in arab lands]?...the israelis have gotten what
they deserved.
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mark:
*** your last 3 posts deserve full consideration + a full, meticulous response.
unfortunately, there
isn't time for that right now, but there is time for the following on the record
quickie:
* about 2 1/2 weeks ago, dennis bernstein + i spoke at some length. i had
called him to compliment him on his interview with michael moore. when we were
finished with that topic we went on to others. since so much of his air time is
devoted to the israeli-arab conflict--and he only covers one
side of the story, and that side heavily spun--i asked him if he weren't
concerned he had gotten a rep for not being interested in the truth, but merely
his opinion of it. below is his response [direct quote]:
d bernstein [7th march 2002]:
i asked him if he really meant that, and he said yes. we discussed it, which led
to a question i had for him about his concern for balance in his programs--or at
the very least, acknowledging that there was another side to the story. below is
a close paraphrase of his response:
d bernstein [7th march 02]:
i asked him if he realized how racist + self-loathing that sounded + he said it
wasn't either, but that i obviously didn't understand. he got that part right.
we tried to discuss it further, but the conversation began to veer off into
worldwide-jewish-control-of-banks-and-the-media conspiracy theories.
going back to his favorite topic, i asked him if he were willing to acknowledge
that innocent dead
israeli children were just as dead as innocent palestinian children--and if he
understood that on a human level, the parents + families of dead jews grieved
just as much for their losses as the parents + familes of dead arabs. below is a
close paraphrase of his response:
d bernstein [7th march 2002]:
full dislosures 1): i'm not jewish so i have no personal religious ax to grind
here. 2) he said a great
deal more, of course, but after that, i was thinking about how utterly cavalierly
he had dismissed
<...dead children...> in favor of real estate. anyway, i asked him if he didn't
think there might be
some issues he needed to address within himself...issues involving his apparent
inability to see beyond his blinders. he asked what i meant. i told him that he
is holding himself out as an investigative
journalist, but in fact he more often sounds like a paid hack for some lobbyist
or foreign ministry.
his response:
he went on to say that he was producing a show, and had i ever heard of artistic
license? well, yes, i
have. but in my naive way, i'd like to believe that artistic license is one of
those things we at pacifica
would try to use sparingly when it comes to investigative reporting.
* we talked about other things, too, that night, but there was virtually no
getting through to him on any level. his mind was made up; why confuse him with
the facts? he wasn't interested in debate or
conversation. he merely wanted an audience. i felt as if i were listening to
elmer gantry.
* contrast herr bernstein's nightly one-sided ravings with amy goodman's
broadcast last week of her
debate between former att gen ramsey clark + former cia director woolsey. what a
superb hour of
radio--an intelligent, spirited, highly charged discussion from two persons who
could not--as they
both acknowledged--have disagreed more about their topics. i am certain vitually
everyone who heard it learned a great deal. i certainly did.
*** recap. mark, we at pacifica--esp some of the more ossified icons + great
minds--seem to excell
at sanctimonious, self-righteous excoriation of anyone who has the temerity to
confront us with anything which disputes his/her previously held positions--even
if those positions are little more than
personal opinions. in a recent post [qv], dan jones has put both such behavior
+
the genesis of it into some context; but the truth hurts, and a fair number of
people in this network--including our own
kpft, kpfa + the pnb--don't want to hear it. better to ignore it + hope that the
problem will just go
away. it won't + you know it won't.
dennis bernstein is rapidly turning himself into some sort of grotesque
parody...a sort of single-issue
art bell of pacifica garnished with the shards of oliver north. fine. it's a
free country. let him have at it. but why do we have to take up a prime time
slot on our station with it? let's put him on at 3:00am
with all the other conspiracy theorists, and use that time to rerun democracy
now.
*** mark, have you not asked yourself why gauleiter bernstein is not on kfpk?
bai? pfw? there could be a message there.
gg
mwilde1050@a... wrote:
> I will go on the record as liking some of what I hear on Flashpoints. Except
> for Bernstein's personality, I generally like the show. I have difficulty
> listening to it every night because the circumstances in Isreal break my
> heart and make me very angry. Sometimes I have too much other stuff on my
> plate to psychologically tolerate that.
>
> That said, I would be happy to dump Flashpoints for a daily local news
> magazine or rotating roundtable discussion on something of local import. We
> already have the market cornered on international news coverage with the BBC,
> FSRN, and DN covering international issues. From a programing perspective,
> does it add more? If so, how?
>
> Mark Wilde
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